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CCBill's Ron Cadwell Regrets He Can No Longer Process Bestiality Sites
2002-11-12 08:21:43
Mutt writes on Oprano.com: Dude on GFY who runs bestiality sites copy n pasted his email correspondence with CCBILL.
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March 25, 2002
Dear Webmaster:
Attached is a copy of a letter we received from Visa stating that they will no longer accept Visa cards as payment for beastiality sites. Please note that their decision is effective immediately. Although we regret having to, CCBill must, as a result of Visa’s decision and other potential legal problems associated with processing billing for beastiality sites, cancel our agreement to provide service to you. We will continue to accept new member sign-ups until 2:00 PM Mountain time on Thursday, March 28, 2002.
Even though your site will still be accessible to existing members until their subscriptions expire, because there is a potential for an unusually large amount of chargebacks and/or refunds, CCBill is holding all funds due you for a minimum of 6 months. Once we are satisfied that there is no further chargeback activity, we will send you the remaining balance.
While we have tried to find another way for you to continue processing, we have been unable to do so. I appreciate your business in the past, and again regret having to take this action. Please contact Frank Cadwell at (480) 449-7760 between the hours of 11:00 AM and 4:00 PM Mountain time if you have any questions.
Very truly yours,
Ron Cadwell
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All my partners are happy with me. I'm the only one processings these things [extreme niches such as bestiality] for them. They've been thrown out by everybody everywhere.
"We have different merchant accounts [to process credit cards]. I'm a little bit more expensive than other [credit card processors] but I take the risk.
"Celebrity sites are getting closed down [if they aren't done legally, MrSkin.com is a legal celebrity site]. This whole industry is going down because they are only giving 25 pictures and five MPEGs and they make you pay $29 [a month]. They're destroying the industry.
"In the past, I was selling a book with 46 pages for $29. Now I have to give more 100,000 pictures and 100,000 films for $29 [for a month's membership to the website]. When we had books and films and videos only, and not the internet, then we were making good money.
"Thirty years ago, people thought you would go to prison if you made [bestiality] films. But I found something in the law [to permit it]."
Do you have the only company that processes credit cards for bestiality sites?
"No. There are about 20."
Hans says he owns about 90% of the bestiality industry.
A source writes: "He used to own about 90% of the bestiality industry, but times have changed. Online it's now only like 15% - 20% that he owns, probably not even. With DVD/Video distribution he probably is still very big (maybe 70% - 80%)."
In the US, the online industry fears that Mastercard and VISA will cut them off.
"They can't do that. It would be an anti-trust violation. That's the reason that VISA is still accepting animals. We went to court with other companies. VISA had to admit that it will stay [processing bestiality]. MasterCard had to go because it has a lot of Catholics behind them.
"I'm the only guy who's fighting for everybody about this thing. Everybody's talking about it but nobody does anything."
I know at least three other companies that also have taken legal action or that are currently in lawsuits because Interpay (Paysquare) stopped (under pressure from Mastercard) processing Mastercard transactions for bestiality websites and products.
Hans: "Because I was the guy who closed down iBill and CCBill [from processing for bestiality], I know exactly how to do this.
"IBill still wants to go to Europe. I ordered them not to go to Europe [to process for bestiality]. I ordered them not to. They were making a lot of money from my stuff [websites that stole Burger's content and then charged people to view it]. I will put a ban on them. Later on, we came to angreement. They know that I know the processors in Holland, the freeest country in the world.
"There were people in the US who owed me $17 million when they went bankrupt.
"If they say that VISA and Mastercard is the same as money, then they have a big problem. They can't say that they won't process for animals. Everywhere in the world you can buy my films. You can pay with credit cards. But you can't pay with a credit card to come into my site because it's animals? We call that discrimination in Holland.
"If VISA/MC are the same as money, then it is not written on your dollars or on my Euros that you are not allowed to use this currency to buy porn. Everywhere VISA/MC make these commercials saying you can buy with these credit cards what you want. So this is false information that they're giving.
"The only reason that Mastercard doesn't have to process for bestiality sites is that they have a contract where they can say, we don't want to work with you anymore."